George Brumbaugh Father
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The Federal Census of 1880 asks where your parents were born. George answered what looks like to be Holland. At the time George was living with his sister-in-law, Sarah Fall. It appears that his brother Samuel had died.
George Fall birth about 1812
Samuel Fall birth about 1810
Census of 1840 - George was 27 years old, married to Margaret and had a family. They lived in Beavertown, Snyder Co., PA. or Beaver, Union, PA. Samuel Fall lived in the same location. He would have been 29 years old.
Margaret Kern's Grandfather, Yost Kern bought a farm in 1790 containing 150 acres from John Swift, near where Beavertown now stands. The town was laid out in 1810, then called Swiftown, In 1806 he conveyed this farm to his son, Henry, Sr.
George and Samuel indicated on census that he was born in Pennsylvania. The father should be on census listings no later than 1810.
Note: Looked at the Census sheets for Beaver Twp for 1810, 1820, 1830. No name that would resemble any variation of spelling for Fall. 7/25/09
Names Used Following Generations:
Immigration through Philadelphia:
Figure the father was between 20 - 30 when Samuel was born. Both mother and father came from Holland, so they were probably married when they came over. Look for husband and wife with no children. Name maybe Fahl - read that most with the Fall name that came to central Pennsylvania from Germany hand the name Fahl.
Lawrence Wise Jul 26, 09 Edit or delete
Could they have lived in another township or county?
Jim Wise Jul 26, 09 Edit or delete
Probably from somewhere else. I have switched to looking at immigration records for the time period, but not having a lot of luck. I looking for a significant change in the spelling of their name.
Connie Fall Aug 3, 09 Edit or delete
Jim, have you seen the 1820 U.S. Federal Census for Beaver, PA for a John M Fall or John McFall? It could either surname. It's on Ancestry.com, National Archive Microfilm Roll M33_96; Page: 147 Image: 87? Perhaps this could be George's father. The census indicates that lliving in the household are: 1 free white male under the age of 10 -1 free white male between sixteen and eighteen - 1 free white male of twenty-six and under forty-five, including heads of house - 1 free white male of forty-five and upwards, including heads of house - 1 free white female of ten and under sixteen - 1 free white female of twenty-six and under forty-five, including heads of house and 1 foreigner not naturalized. Just a thought.
Lawrence Wise Aug 3, 09 Edit or delete
Could it be that the Falls came from Germany through Holland (where they boarded that ship) to this country and so George wrote down Holland since literally that is where they came from before entering the US. Maybe that idea is a long shot.
Larry Eugene Fall Aug 3, 09 Edit or delete
I think that you are probably correct. Many immigrants from the Palatine area came to America via Holland. Some did go to England and Ireland first, but mosty went to Holland. Another reason for putting down Holland might be "Pennsyvania Dutch" which many interpret as Holland but in fact is "Deutsch" or "German". Since most people at that time were illiterate, alot of the interpretation can be from the census takers point of view. I know for a fact that both George and Margaret Fall were illieterate because in the legal documents signed in Indiana between 1848 and 1855 the used their mark "X".
Jim Wise Aug 5, 09 Edit or delete
Looks like John McFall
Jim Wise Aug 5, 09 Edit or delete
Source Citation: Place: Philadelphia, Pennsylvania; Year: 1808; Page Number: 278.
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Connie Fall Aug 5, 09 Edit or delete
Thanks, Jim. I had saved both of these to my shoebox in Ancestry. There were also several other McFalls listed in the Philadelphia, 1789-1880 Naturalizarion Records who could have been related to John - brothers, perhaps, or uncles -
Philadelphia, 1789-1880 Naturalization Records
What are your thoughts on this John McFall being George's father?
Connie Fall Aug 5, 09 Edit or delete
I just came across some interesting posts on the name McFall/McFalls/McFaul, and more on theancestry.com message boards. Even though the specific McFalls mentioned in the message boards do not directly relate to the John McFall mentioned here or our George Fall, I thought them interesting enough to share (there are four posts)
Lawrence Wise Aug 31, 09 Edit or delete
I did some searching of census records using a ProQuest database that is available through my local library website. I found a listing for John Fahl in 1810 in Berks County northwest of Philadelphia. For the 1820 census there is a John Fahl in Schuykill County, which is east of George Fall's home of Snyder County, PA. There was no listing for 1790 or 1810. This database does not have the census for 1830 - 1850.
I also found a lot more people with the Fahl name in Berks County as part of the Skwiat family -
I didn't see much hard data but I saw an interesting entry - John George Fahl - a nice mix of names. There was nothing much listed about him but it looks like he would have been born after 1770.
Is there anything to this or am I really barking up wrong trees.
Connie Fall Sep 15, 09 Edit or delete
I'm sorry to burst your bubble, Larry, but Larry and I have researched these Fahl names, which can be found in the "Fahl-Fall and Allied Families, Printed by The Mercer Co., in Ottumwa, Iowa 1961, and John George aka Johann George Fahl and John Fall/Fahl of Berks Co., PA are not connected to our George Fall. They moved from Pennsylvania to North Carolina and from there to Darke County, Ohio. We've been trying to years to connect our Falls to Johann Dietrick aka John Deter Fall with no success. There's a complete section in that book, of the Johann Dietrick Fahl family, of whom I'm referring. You can access the book through Ancestry.com. I hope you have better luck in your research, as I, for one, am becoming quite discouraged at ever finding the father of our George Fall.
Lawrence Wise Sep 17, 09 Edit or delete
Connie: I am naive at this. I was just hoping. I guess the Falls are like the Wises around the Canton area. There are large numbers of them but we don't seem to be related to most.
Back to the Falls - You would think there would be some trace of George's parents is some church, court house or twp hall somewhere in PA. The problem is finding it - if it wasn't destroyed.